Sunday, September 9, 2018

Kyosho Rocky Shock Rebuild Using Modern Parts

The Kyosho Rocky shocks are unique in the world of Kyosho, so finding replacement parts such as the shock shafts is impossible.  In order to continue to use the original stock cylinder and keep the vintage look, I came up with a way to rebuild the shocks using modern internal pistons and shafts.

First, here is a look at the very unique shaft and piston design from the original Rocky:


From the above picture the shock looks almost normal.  It has a black piston and an e-clip to hold the piston at the top of the shaft.  But there is a spring under the piston between it and the e-clip.  What does that do?  Let's look at the parts individually to find out.

 The shock shaft has a small piston head built in.

The piston is hollow with very thin sides that contain notches.  The holes around the center shaft hole allow the shock oil to flow through but they are partially blocked by the head of the shock shaft when the piston is pushed against it by the spring at rest.

The spring.

How it works:  The spring holds the black piston against the head of the shaft when the shock is at rest.  When the shaft is pushed into the cylinder, like when the car hits a bump, the force pushes the shaft into the shock cylinder.  The black piston, which is the same diameter as the inner cylinder wall of the shock, wants to stay in place due to the oil in front of it, so it pushes against the spring, compressing it.  This action allows oil to flow past the shaft piston head (which is smaller in diameter than the black piston) and flow through the black piston holes to the other side. This allows the black piston to move forward further into the cylinder providing the damping action needed by the car to absorb bumps.

It is fairly complicated by today's standards but very cool.

Unfortunately these unique shock shafts are impossible to find, so when the original shafts wear out from use or are damaged there is no way to fix the shock while keeping the original piston design.  The simple solution is to find a modern replacement shock with the same specifications (length, diameter), but I wanted to find a way to use the original shock cylinders, springs and external hardware while swapping the piston and shaft for something modern in order to keep maintenance easy while keeping the original look.

Here is what I came up with.  The design is based around the re-released Kyosho Optima shocks.

I used the following parts:
Kyosho OT239 Front Shock Shaft (2pcs/OPTIMA).  Two packs are required to rebuild three Rocky shocks.

Kyosho OT209 Shock Piston (OPTIMA).  Two packs are required to rebuild three Rocky shocks.

Kyosho W5181-03 Shock Pistons.  Only the small washers will be used from this pack.  There are 8 washers, enough to rebuild 8 Rocky shocks.

Kyosho ORG03BK (Black/10Pcs).  This pack has enough o-rings to rebuild 10 Rocky shocks.

Team Durango TD310671 O-Ring 9*1mm (10pcs).  This pack has enough o-rings to rebuild 10 Rocky shocks.
Alternatively, Kyosho W5181-04 Shock Seal O-Ring (S) can be used, but this part is getting harder to find, is more expensive, and only comes 4 to a pack.

The original Rocky shock parts that will be used are:
The cylinder, spring, end cap, retaining washer, spring retainers and screw.

How to build the shock assembly:
Step 1:  Install a small white washer from W5181-03 into the end cap.

Step 2:  Install a 3mm o-ring from ORG03BK.

Step 3:  Install an end cap seal o-ring from TD310671 (or W5181-04).

Step 4:  Assemble the shock shaft and piston assembly using OT239 and OT209 and the supplied e-clips.  There are three piston styles (A, B, C) to choose from in the OT209 pack.  I used style C, but you can use whatever piston you want.

The small spacer in OT209 is used to limit the maximum extension travel of the shaft to match the original stock Rocky shocks.  In the following picture the spacer is slid up to the piston.

Step 5:  Install piston shaft assembly into the Rocky cylinder and fill the cylinder with silicone shock oil up to where the end cap threads start.  Remove all air bubbles by tapping on the cylinder and moving the shaft up and down.

Step 6:  Install the aluminum retaining washer into the cylinder, making sure it seats uniformly on the inside lip of the cylinder wall.  This washer prevents the o-ring from popping out of the end cap.

Step 7:  Put a drop of silicone oil on the inner o-ring in the end cap to help prevent damage to the o-ring when pushing the threaded shock shaft through the end cap.  Screw the end cap in to the shock cylinder.  Make sure the retaining washer remains seated properly while this is done.  Also, test and make sure the shock shaft can be fully pushed in to the cylinder and fully extended.  If the shock shaft is hydro-locked when pushing it in, loosen the end cap to allow some oil to come out and then tighten and re-try. Since there is no bladder and the shock volume is small it is difficult to have a perfect smooth feel to the shock movement and some air will likely be present, but with some trial and error it should be possible to have a good feeling shock with minimal air inside.

Step 8:  Install the external hardware (spring retainer w/screw, ball end, etc.) and you now have a finished shock.

Here is one of my Rockys with the shocks installed:

There may be cheaper solutions for replacing Rocky shocks, but in order to keep the vintage look I think the extra cost is worth it.

If you have found another way to restore or rebuild your Rocky shocks, I would love to hear about it in the comments below.

Wednesday, February 14, 2018

Moore's Ideal Products Hotshot Ball Differential Production Goal Reached!

From the MIP email newsletter:


MIP Starter Goal Reached!

#17160 & #17165 Super Ball Diff Tamiya Hotshot/BigWig


As of this month, we have officially reached our project order goal for the #1760 & #17165 MIP Super Ball Diff, Tamiya HotShot/ BigWig! Thank you to everyone who supported the project!
So what can you expect now?

Production has Started!

We have begun to manufacturer the #17160 (Pair), #17165 (Single Diff) and all other corresponding support parts.

Shipping Date Coming!

If you have already pre-ordered your ball diff, expect your order to ship by next month. Official ship date will be announced soon!

Price Increase Coming!

If you haven't had a chance to order your ball diff yet at this special MIP starter introductory price, order soon because a price increase is coming! 


No information regarding what the price increase will be, however.

Product links:


Disclaimer:  I do not work for MIP and am not affiliated with them in any way.  This posting is to simply get the message out about this product to other Tamiya Hotshot, Super Hotshot and Bigwig owners.

Tuesday, January 30, 2018

Moore's Idea Products Hotshot Ball Differential Single Unit Pre-order

Moore's Ideal Products (MIP) is now offering pre-orders of the Hotshot ball differential in single units in addition to the dual unit offering.

This ball differential can be installed in either the front or rear gearcase of the Tamiya Hotshot, Super Hotshot or Bigwig.

Link to product page:  http://www.miponline.com/store/mip17165.html

MIP Hotshot Ball Diff.  Image Copyright (C) Moore's Ideal Products

Below text taken from MIP web site:

Please note that this is a pre-order product. MIP must receive a minimum of 250 pre-orders by February 16 before production on the product is started. If the Pre-order goal is met, products will begin shipping out March 1st. If the minimum amount of orders is not met by February 16, then the product will not be manufactured and we will refund the full amount back to your account.

#17165 MIP Super Ball Diff, Tamiya HotShot/ BigWig
MSRP: $55.00
MAP: Web Only, Dealer & Distributors please contact sales@miponline.com for ordering information
UPC: 691545171609

PRODUCT DESCRIPTION:
Now Sold Individually! 
Upgrade your front or rear axle and bring your HotShot into the 21st Century without losing that old-school 1980’s feel with the MIP Super Ball Diff for the Hotshot and Bigwig! The kit includes a 2-piece, Steel outdrive, Ball Diff w/ MIP Thrust assembly and Diff Balls. Our Ball Diff is unique because ours is rebuild-able. No other Ball Diff is capable of that! Our Ball Diff is also adjustable and increases acceleration of your car and increases speed in turns! Slight modification will be needed on the gear case of your car in order to get the part to fit. Not to worry though! We include the hole saw necessary to make the hole in the case.

TARGET CUSTOMERS:
Hot Shot, Super HotShot, & BigWig (2017)

COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGES:
Kit comes with parts to upgrade either rear or front axle
Rebuild-able 
Adjustable Traction
Increased Acceleration
Less Wear and Tear
Increase in Speed in Turns

COMPATIBILITY:
All Hotshots (remakes #58391, #84265) , Super Hotshot(#58517) & Bigwig (#47330)(2017)

Disclaimer:  I do not work for MIP and am not affiliated with them in any way.  This posting is to simply get the message out about this product to other Tamiya Hotshot, Super Hotshot and Bigwig owners.

Wednesday, January 3, 2018

Moore's Ideal Products Tamiya Hotshot Ball Differential Pre-Order is LIVE

Moore's Ideal Products (MIP) has begun the pre-order of the Tamiya Hotshot, Super Hotshot and Bigwig Super Ball Differential.

Link to product page:  www.miponline.com/store/mip17160.html

Below text taken from MIP web site (with some corrections to the Support Products section by me):

Please note that this is a pre-order product. MIP must receive a minimum of 250 pre-orders by January 26 before production on the product is started. If the Pre-order goal is met, products will begin shipping out February 16. If the minimum amount of orders is not met by January 26, then the product will not be manufactured and we will refund the full amount back to your account.


#17160 MIP Super Ball Diff, Tamiya HotShot/ BigWig
MSRP: $115.00
MAP: Web Only, Dealer & Distributors please contact sales@miponline.com for ordering information
UPC: 691545171609

PRODUCT DESCRIPTION:
Upgrade both your front and rear axle with ease and bring your HotShot into the 21st Century without losing that old-school 1980’s feel with the MIP Super Ball Diff for the Hotshot and Bigwig! The kit includes a 2-piece, Steel outdrive, Ball Diff w/ MIP Thrust assembly and Diff Balls. Our Ball Diff is unique because ours is rebuild-able. No other Ball Diff is capable of that! Our Ball Diff is also adjustable and increases acceleration of your car and increases speed in turns! Slight modification will be needed on the gear case of your car in order to get the part to fit. Not to worry though! We include the hole saw necessary to make the hole in the case.

TARGET CUSTOMERS:
Hot Shot, Super HotShot, & BigWig (2017)

COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGES:
Kit comes with parts to upgrade both rear and front axle
Rebuild-able 
Adjustable Traction
Increased Acceleration
Less Wear and Tear
Increase in Speed in Turns

INCLUDES:
2 - MIP Confetti Stickers 
1 - MIP Inst. Sheet
1 - MIP Thread Gel Safety Sheet 
1 - MIP Lube & Thread Cup
14 - Bearing, 3/32" Chrome Steel Balls
6 - Bearing, 5/64" Chrome Steel Balls
2 - Bearing, 10 x 15 x 4mm, Flanged
2 - Bearing, 10 x 15 x 4mm, Flanged
2 - Diff Ring, Slash
1 - Diff Spring, 1/4 x 9/32"
1 - Diff Screw, Shoulder, 2-56 x .925, Assoc
2 - Bearing, 5mm x 8mm x 2.5mm
1 - MIP T-Nut Housing, .250 Bore
1 - MIP T-Nut Insert, .250 Bore
2 - MIP Outdrive Male Tamiya HotShot
2 - MIP Outdrive Female, Tamiya HotShot
2 - MIP Diff Gear, 47T 32P, Tamiya HotShot
1 - MIP Hole Saw, Tamiya Hot Shot
4 - MIP Bone, Tamiya Hot Shot

COMPATIBILITY:
All Hotshots (remakes #58391, #84265) , Super Hotshot(#58517) & Bigwig (#47330)(2017) 

SUPPORT PRODUCTS: 
#16215 - MIP Super Ball Rebuild Kit, Tamiya Blackfoot/ Monster Beetle MSRP: $15.00 UPC:691545162157
#17161 - Super Ball Diff Outdrives MSRP: $32.00 UPC:691545162157
#17162 - Super Ball Diff 47T Diff Gear MSRP: $12.00 UPC:691545162157
#99061 - HW-BEARING/ 5 x 8 x 2.5mm (2) MSRP: $5.00 UPC: 691545990613
#99108 - HW-BEARING/ 5 x 8 x 2.5mm (2) MSRP: $5.00 UPC:691545990613
#99110 - HW-Bearing, 10mmx15mmx4mm Flanged (2) MSRP: $7.50 UPC:691545991108


I do not know if this differential will fit other Tamiya models, such as the Boomerang (vintage or re-re), Hotshot II (vintage), or Super Sabre (vintage).
 
Disclaimer:  I do not work for MIP and am not affiliated with them in any way.  This posting is to simply get the message out about this product to other Tamiya Hotshot, Super Hotshot and Bigwig owners.